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Congestion Pricing & the Lobbying Apparatus that Won't Take No For an Answer
Congestion Pricing Legislation was being Pushed in Albany over a Decade Ago ... so Who's Really in Charge?
March 26, 2019 / NYC Neighborhoods / NYC Politics & Government / News Analysis & Opinion / Gotham Buzz NYC.
Last week I attended a Congestion Pricing Town Hall organized by Manhattan Borough President Gale Brewer. Earlier in the week City Council Member Helen Rosenthal had organized one along the same lines because legislation is percolating in Albany.
Governor Cuomo appears to be itching to pass the Congestion Pricing legislation, likely so he can get his hands on more taxpayer money, while satisfying a whole host of private industry consultants and corporations. These consultants and corporations would then rake in hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars thanks to Albany. So then would they recycle a small portion of the funds into the campaigns of the folks who supported it?
These days that seems to be the campaign funding cycle - where the voters get left out because they aren't minding the store. A government of the people, by the people and for the people doesn't work if the people aren't paying attention. Jefferson said, "Those who believe they can be ignorant and free, believe in something that never was and never shall be."
I. Congestion Pricing is a Very Expensive Taxation Plan
Let me start by outlining what the Congestion Pricing legislation really is, versus the myriad of narratives they've used to sell this pig. While they have said it will reduce congestion, reduce carbons, increase cycling, increase safety - note that all of these claims are highly debatable. Based on the research I've done, the Congestion Pricing Plan seems quite simply to be a very, very expensive means of taxation.
In London, where they implemented Congestion Pricing over a decade ago, as of a few years ago, only about half of the revenue made its way into public transit development. The other half was used to install and operate [and god knows what else] the new infrastructure. Click here to read a prior report we did which includes lots of facts, figures and the history and effects of congestion pricing in the U.S. and Europe.
It's worth noting that London decided NOT to go forward with the second proposed phase of Congestion Pricing. And it's worth mentioning that I found a lot of 'authoritative looking' disinformation out there regarding the London results, which one can surmise was encouraged - if not funded - by those who so handsomely profit from this sort of legislation.
If the government officials in Albany are going to increase our taxes, the least they could do is make it such that the taxation revenue that is collected is 100% usable, not 50% usable.
When you take away the incremental revenue generated by the Congestion Pricing Plan, you will clearly see that it DOES NOTHING TO SOLVE THE NYC MASS TRANSIT PROBLEM and there are far less expensive / more efficient / more beneficial means of taxation.
- CLICK here to read our report on the Congestion Pricing bill under consideration in the NYS Senate.
NYC / NYS Congestion Pricing 3.0
NYS Senators Liz Krueger & Brad Hoylman Host Community Transit Discussion
March 5, 2018 / Midtown Manhattan / Manhattan Neighborhoods / Manhattan Business / News Analysis & Opinion / Manhattan Buzz NYC.
It was a cool Thursday evening as I made my way to the CUNY Graduate Center in Midtown. The CUNY Graduate Center is located on Fifth Avenue just north of 34th Street kiddy-corner from the Empire State Building.
I was headed to a community discussion about the public transit crisis facing NYC. I suppose, not surprising, was that one of the Congestion Pricing representatives, Alex Matthiessen, was there to present. Alex started out the conversation with a presentation of the new Congestion Pricing Plan, which is now called Fix NYC, telling us how this Congestion Pricing plan was different from the two prior ones floated by the Bloomberg Administration and by Mattheissen's Move NY group a few years back.
Click here to read our report about NYC Congestion Traffic Pricing posted in March 2016 when we took a pretty in-depth view at who has been pushing this plan [consultancies & businesses that will profit from the infrastructure build out], how much of the London implementation revenue went back into improvements in that city [about 50%], how congestion pricing didn't reduce traffic, but time shifted traffic in a New Jersey bridge / tunnel implementation [they had claimed emissions reductions and used a 'green' label to promote the last version of this plan], and other important things to consider regarding implementing a 'new and improved' congestion pricing system along the East River Bridges.
- CLICK here for the rest of our report on NYC Congestion Traffic Pricing forum organized by NYS Senator Liz Krueger at the CUNY Graduate Center in Midtown.
NYC Congestion Pricing - Move NY Congestion Pricing Plan
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Which Queens 'Democratic' Pols Support $8 Tolls?
Currently NYS Senator Jose Peralta, Cuomo's Deputy of Legislative Affairs Mark Weprin & CCM Van Bramer, Richards & Reynoso Publicly Support Installing $8 Tolls on Queensborough & Other East River Bridges to Raise Capital for the MTA
Queens Democratic Party Chairman Joe Crowley & NYS Governor Cuomo Supported Congestion Traffic Pricing in the Past
March 29, 2016 / Queens Neighborhoods / Queens Politics / News Analysis & Opinion / Gotham Buzz NYC.
The new Congestion Traffic Pricing Plan has been making its way into the legislative process over the past year. Just last week NYS Assemblyman Robert Rodriguez, a Democrat from Manhattan introduced the bill on March 23, 2016. The Move NY Congestion Traffic Pricing Plan is being sold into the legislature as a means to raise revenue to fund MTA Capital projects.
Governor Cuomo's Words
Governor Andrew Cuomo supported the Congestion Pricing Plan put forth years ago, which wasn't popular with many of the voters in Brooklyn & Queens. The two boroughs have a combined population which rounds to 5 million or 25% of the 20 million people who live in New York State.
Cuomo was quoted as making the following statement by the Observer in an article published a year ago on March 15, 2015,
“It’s not, ‘Can I support it?’ Will the people support it? Can you get it done? Can you get a congestion plan passed and we’ve gone through this a couple of times and it was an overwhelming ‘no’ and I haven’t seen anything happen that would change my opinion,”
The Governor has essentially been repeating this position publicly ever since.
Governor Cuomo's Staff Actions
But while the Governor is publicly distancing himself from the measure which is unpopular in Queens and Brooklyn, former NY City Councilmember Mark Weprin, who is now Cuomo's Deputy of Legislative Affairs, has supported the Move NY Plan.
Weprin vehemently oppposed Congestion Traffic Pricing in 2008 when he was a NY City Councilmember, but in 2015 Weprin began publicly supporting the revised Congestion Traffic Pricing Plan as he transitioned from NY City Councilmember to becoming Cuomo's Deputy of Legislative Affairs. NYS Assemblyman David Weprin, Mark's brother, continues to publicly oppose the plan.
It's worth mentioning that the Weprins and the Cuomos have had close family political ties spanning two generations.
Congressman Crowley's Position Circa 2007
Democratic Party Chairman, U.S. Congressman Joseph Crowley, supported the Congestion Traffic Pricing Plan backed by former Mayor Bloomberg, according to a June 11, 2007 report by the New York Times which quoted Crowley as saying,
“the overall [2007] plan — and congestion pricing is just a part of it — will make this a more livable city and make it easier to attract the best and the brightest not only from around the country but from around the world.”
We've not yet seen any comments by Congressman Crowley on the current Move NY Plan which was recently introduced.
Move NY's 'New & Improved' Congestion Traffic Pricing Plan
We studied the Move NY Traffic Congestion Pricing proposal by first taking a closer look at what groups are pushing the plan [follow the money], researched the assumptions they used to create the estimates they provide in the plan, and looked at what happened in one of the other cities around the world that implemented the plan.
In essence the plan retrofits [re-prices] the fossil fuel infrastructure, by making a significant investment to install and operate tolling around the center of Manhattan. The remaining proceeds would then go to fund other MTA capital projects [in London this was about half the proceeds]. The pricing would require those who can't afford the $8 tolls [each way] to either use mass transit [recent NYC metro studies have shown this switching doesn't happen] or to cross the bridge at other times at which time the tolls would cost less. The proponents say this would enable those who can afford the tolls to cross the bridge and move around mid Manhattan more easily [less traffic congestion].
Previously MTA Invests Billion$ in New Subways Appearing to Accommodate Manhattan Developers & Now Pols Want Metro Residents & Employees To Fund MTA Capital Budget
The MTA during the Bloomberg (Republican) Administration made approximately $8 billion in MTA capital investments for about 30 to 40 blocks of Manhattan subway lines. One line travels from Times Square to the Javits Center [$2.4 billion mostly paid by city] and the other, which was strongly supported by NYC Comptroller Scott Stringer, is expected to travel along Second Avenue from about East 60th Street to about East 86th Street when it is completed [ran way past budget and time estimates - currently about $5.2 billion].
The latter subway line has been called the 'subway to nowhere', while the other isn't much different - as it terminates at the Javits Center and billionaire real estate developer Steven Ross' & Related Companies' new Hudson Yards development - without any other subway connections. Pundits have opined that one [new #7 Hudson Yards station] and possibly both of these multi-billion dollar investments were made to accommodate Manhattan real estate developers [such as Ross], more than to facilitate transit for commuters and residents of New York City.
When I confronted an MTA spokesperson with this perspective, they told me that the Q line extension would alleviate a considerable amount of the congestion on the north / south east side Manhattan subway line, but made no comment regarding the Hudson Yards station.
The photos above show no passengers on the Javits subway [at an admittedly random time and not long after it was installed], while the second photo shows the #6 subway along the Upper East Side, also at a random time [I have #7 photos that look the same, but didn't have time to find one]. The map to your right shows the new #7 subway line extension ending as an unconnected spur.
Perhaps if the MTA and the government officals who oversee MTA capital project spending were more judicious in their selection of multi-billion dollar projects and allocation of funds, they wouldn't need to charge taxpayers $8 tolls on the East River Bridges to develop and operate an expensive new tolling system [that aids the wealthy & economically discriminates against those who are not], so they can raise some extra revenue for transit that NYC commuters - not Manhattan real estate developers - really need.
Click here for the rest of our story about the Move NY Congestion Traffic Pricing Plan as we explore in greater detail a connected web of people, lobbyists and organizations behind Move NY Congestion Traffic Pricing Plan and their possible motivations. We critique the plan including a review of the assumptions, and a closer look at independent studies done with regard to motorists response to toll prices and changes.
Governor Hochul Scraps the Ill Conceived LGA - Willets Point Air Train
Former Governor Cuomo's Air Train Seemed More About Catering to the Whims of the Billionaire Class, than in Streamlining Public Transit
March 15, 2023 / NYC Neighborhoods / News Analysis & Opinion / Queens Buzz NYC / 1066.
In 2017 I attended a Community Board meeting in Astoria where our urban planners talked about new improvements coming to LaGuardia Airport. Since then a number of those plans have come to fruition. But one of them, what at the time was called the third phase, the Air Train to LGA, has not. Use the link to see the thinking nearly six years ago when the plans had been drafted and the construction was about to begin. I'm happy to say that we flagged and reported to you a number of the issues with the LGA Air Train early on, which we've included in the list below.
The photo at right shows the CTA [Chicago Transit Authority] subway that runs along the Kennedy Expressway from downtown Chicago to O'Hare Airport which vies with Atlanta for the title of the busiest airport in the U.S..
The Former Emperor [Governor Cuomo] had No Clothes [Sound Public Interest Rationale]
On Monday, Governor Hochul announced what was already well known and expected, which was that the Air Train shuttling between LaGuardia Airport and Flushing Meadows Corona Park, would not be built.
There were any number of good reasons why the LGA Air Train should not have been built, such as: 1) the costs of building the train would cost more than five times the original estimated cost of under $500 million to over $2.5 billion, 2) then, implicit in a number of alternatives, there was the idiocy of connecting the LGA Air Train, to the second most trafficked subway line [the #7] in NYC, which was already nearing peak capacity pre-pandemic, 3) the politically and billionaire preferred alternative destination, Willets Point on Flushing Bay, had just been cleaned up after decades of environmental pollution, and would again be threatened again, and to top it all off, 4) the politically and billionaire preferred Willets Point alternative required all of the people traveling to and from LaGuardia on public transit, to travel out to Flushing first, before circling back around to LaGuardia Airport. The billionaires who would have benefitted from this include billionaire real estate developer Stephen Ross and [now minority interest] Mets Club billionaire owners Saul B. Katz and Fred Wilpon. The new Mets baseball team owner, Steve Cohen, is also a billionaire.
CLICK here to read our report on Governor Hochul scraps the LGA to Flushing Meadows Corona Park Air Train.
LaGuardia Airport Construction & Development at LGA NYC Queens
Update: LaGuardia Airport Development Project
First Phase Moving Along with Second & Third Phases About to Begin
April 24, 2017 / Astoria Neighborhood / Queens Real Estate / Gotham Buzz NYC.
I attended a Community Board One meeting at the Astoria World Manor on Wednesday, April 19th. People representing the LaGuardia Airport development project were scheduled to provide the community with an update regarding several of the multi-billion dollar renovation projects associated with LaGuardia Airport, that are either currently in the works or nearing the end of the planning process.
The presentation was split into three parts: 1) LaGuardia Airport development project construction updates, 2) traffic mitigation efforts and 3) community outreach including job opportunities related to the projects.
Click here to read our report on the LaGuardia Airport development project & expansion, related job opportunities, its possible impact on travel times to the airport and the public hearing details on May 3rd, 2017 in Flushing. We have also included a small bit of history about the airport and the fight over the property and development in Flushing Meadows Corona Park. The graphic at right was created as part of the LaGuardia Airport development project.
Bicycle Laws / Bike Rules in NYC - Staten Island
Cyclists Rights In NYC - Biking Laws & Rules In NYC
Knowing Your Rights & Responsibilities As An NYC Cyclist
November 7, 2013 / NYC Bike Laws / Biking Rules NYC / Gotham Buzz. By Philip Papas. The introduction to the Cyclists' Rights Forum was given by Christina Vassallo, Executive Director, Flux Factory. She told us that the event came about after she and a friend were stopped for cycling violations, which they thought were not illegal, or had erroneously been applied as violation points to their motor vehicle driver's license. As a result she saw the need for a forum to clarify laws, rights and proper procedures for cyclists to follow.
Click here to read our full report about NYC Bike Laws / Cyclists' Rights Forum in Queens at the Flux Factory in LIC.
MTA: Subway Fare Increases March 22
February 13, 2015 / NYC Neighborhoods / Gotham Buzz NYC _ D.
The Board approved increasing the base fare for the subway, bus, and MTA Staten Island Railway by 25 cents to $2.75, while also more than doubling the bonus amount added to MetroCard® purchases of at least one round-trip.
The combination of the increased fare and the increased bonus creates an effective fare increase of 4.1%, or 10 cents, for the Bonus MetroCard, which is used for 43% of trips. The 30-Day Unlimited Ride MetroCard, which is used for 29% of trips, will increase 4% to $116.50. The 7-Day Unlimited Ride MetroCard, which is used for 21% of trips, will increase 3.3% to $31. The remaining 7% of trips are made using non-bonus MetroCards, cash on buses or Single Ride Tickets, which are largely purchased near major tourist destinations.
Vision Zero Appears To Be Helping
Mayor de Blasio's Effort to Reduce Traffic Fatalities Appears To Have Some Success
December 22, 2014 /NYC Neighborhoods / Gotham Buzz NYC _ D.
As of October 1, 2014 there were somewhere between 86 and 97 pedestrians killed by motorists in NYC, and 17 cyclists. In all of 2013 there were 177 pedestrians killed by motorists and 12 cyclists.
If the monthly average of deaths continues through to year end, then some progress will have been made in reducing motorist fatalities in NYC.
Communities have banded together to begin addressing the issue of traffic fatalities on New York City streets. Solutions included reducing the speed limit to 25 mph, continuing the effort to provide separate lanes for cyclists, and rearranging traffic patterns in order to protect pedestrians from death and motorists from ending up in jail.
To be sure, much more needs to be done to make our streets safe, but there was some small measure of encouragement in the 9 month fatality scorecard.
Sunnyside Yards History NYC: History of Trains & Railroad Yards in NYC & Real Estate Development
Real Estate Development: Sunnyside Yards History & NYC Railroad History - Special Report Series
There's Been Talk of Developing the Real Estate of Sunnyside Yards NYC
Updated March 2017 / NYC History & Neighborhoods / Sunnyside Yards & NYC Railroad History / Gotham Buzz NYC.
The following is a series of reports we have run and continue to evolve to provide background and context for the residents and voters of Sunnyside, Long Island City, Astoria, Queens, and perhaps NYC, to use to evaluate the respective pros and cons of public policy with regard to the future development of Sunnyside Yards.
The first report is a brief history of Sunnyside Yards, most of which we picked up in a book presentation by historian / author Dave Morrison at the Greater Astoria Historical Society.
The second report provides a summary overview of the development of Queens in the 19th and 20th centuries. Showing how the development of transportation affected real estate development in Queens.
The third report takes a deeper dive into the 20th century development, exploring the same line of thought with regard to the interwoven importance of transportation and real estate development.
The fourth report is expected in late April, which will show the 20th century history of development - the specifics of which will be arriving shortly.
CLICK here to read our report series on Sunnyside Yard and the history of railroads in NYC.
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Public Transit To & From JFK Airport & Manhattan NYC
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NYC Real Estate - Impact of East Side Access Tunnel on NYC Real Estate Prices
East Side Access Project Moving Along
How Will This Project Affect Manhattan Real Estate?
NYC Real Estate / Updated Summer 2016 / October 4, 2010 / Gotham Buzz NYC.
Progress on the East Side Access Tunnel project has been visible in Queens since early Spring 2010. The MTA has been busy drilling a new tunnel under the East River from LIC / Astoria, using the Sunnyside Railway Yard as its staging grounds. The photo to your left shows the view of the new tunnel being built underneath the East River from an Astoria / LIC perspective. The tunnel connects into Manhattan around 63rd Street.
Meanwhile in the Sunnyside railway yards, many of the buildings that once dotted the landscape have been demolished. Thankfully this doesn't include an old train station which has been around for many years [see photos in rest of story / slide show]. They’ve also cleared away a number of old warehouse and garage like structures along 43rd Street between Northern Blvd and 39th Avenue.
Click here to get an update on the East Side Access Project impact on NYC real estate.
Manhattan Real Estate
MTA East Side Access Project Impact On Midtown, Upper East Side & Manhattan Real Estate
NYC Real Estate / Updated Summer 2016 / October 4, 2010 / Gotham Buzz NYC. Continued.
The East Side Access Project work is intended to be completed in 2016 and will enable LIRR commuters to terminate at Grand Central Station as well as Penn Station, albeit via different trains. Currently commuters from within Queens and Long Island can only terminate at Penn Station on the west side of Manhattan. The project is expected to reduce rush hour pressure on Penn Station, as well as ease some of the rush hour pressure on the east-west subway lines in Manhattan.
The project is forecast to cost $7.3 billion. Much of which is attributable to tunneling under the East River and through 3.5 miles of subterranean Manhattan. A new lower level will be added to Grand Central Station as part of the project. There is also some work being done to the 'Harold Interlocking' in Queens. The Harold Interlocking is the switching area in the Sunnyside Railyards that is used by the rail services to move train cars to alternative tracks [see photo above left].
While much of the work is visible here in Queens, the transit impact of the changes are Manhattan-centric. The new route, shown on the map to your right shows how the new route goes across the East River and down to Grand Central Station. You can also see the old route, which travels diagonally south along the Harold Interlocking, and cuts across the East River near the Mid Town Tunnel. The old route will remain in service.
Sunnyside Woodside LIRR Station - Negligible Improvements
We had heard rumors about a new station being built in Sunnyside as well as discussion about remodeling / upgrading the Woodside station. An MTA spokesperson said that at this time no such plans are in place as part of this project. The new commuter lines are expected to handle about 160,000 passengers per day, when they are completed in 2016.
Number 7 Subway Line Extension - Manhattan Real Estate - Midtown West Side
Separately there is another MTA project underway involving the number 7 subway line, called the Number 7 Subway line extension. This project will add at least one and maybe two more stops to the #7 subway line. The #7 subway begins at Flushing Main Street, runs through western Queens and currently terminates at Times Square. The #7 subway line extension project would have the subway continue onto the Jacob Javits Center with possibly a stop added in between.
The project was orginally scheduled for completion by the end of 2013, but there have been numerous delays, setting back the project years. Estimates for the project that we’ve seen are upwards of $2 billion and climbing. While the number seven subway line is almost entirely Queens-based, according to the project goals, this effort is designed to “transform the Hudson Yards into a vibrant 24 hour neighborhood”. It likely would increase the value of real estate on the west side of Manhattan in an area that could be encompassed in Midtown West.
Any Impact On East Side Manhattan Real Estate?
Based on the information we collected it appears the impact on Queens real estate is negligible. The MTA and LIRR are using land they already own or have leased, so they won’t likely impact property prices from the perspective of supply or demand and the train lines would shoot right through the borough as they always have.
And it appears that all of these public transit changes seem focused on bringing additional traffic to Manhattan and helping the MTA manage that traffic in Manhattan. As noted above, there aren’t any train station changes or additions planned for Queens, nor are there any plans for upgrades or additions to any Queens-only transportation services. Hence, we currently don’t expect any impact on Queens real estate either as a result of these MTA transit service investments / changes. The photo above and to your right is of an old building in the Sunnyside Railyards in early 2010.
East Side Manhattan real estate could possibly benefit from a corporate point of view, making it more easily accessible to those who live on Long Island by reducing the time of the daily commute.
LIRR Thru Queens & Into Manhattan – Overview
This section of our report is to provide you with a brief overview of the LIRR transit through Queens and into Manhattan as depicted on the map to your right. According to the MTA there are currently two major LIRR transit hubs in Queens: the Flushing train station and the Jamaica train station. I would hasten to add that the Woodside station plays a unique role in the LIRR configuration as every LIRR train to / from Manhattan runs through it.
The thin grey line shows how the Jamaica branch runs north up through the Woodside station before traveling onto Penn Station on the west side of Manhattan. There are several trains that terminate in LIC, but these are less frequent. Lastly, there's a line that travels south from the Jamaica station through Brooklyn, terminating at the Atlantic Terminal.
LIRR On Long Island Coming Into Queens - Overview
There are three major LIRR lines running through Long Island into which branches of the LIRR feed. The three main lines are denoted on the map below as A, B and C and correspond to the descriptions of them below.
A. Northern Spur – Port Washington Branch
The Port Washington line of the LIRR runs along its northern track, serving communities not far east of Queens and nestled along northwestern Long Island. The trains come through Flushing and Woodside and currently terminate at Penn Station on the west side of Manhattan.
B. The Main Lines – Oyster Bay, Ronkonkoma & Port Jefferson
The main lines of the LIRR run through the middle of Long Island and reach many communities along its northern shores that are east of Port Washington. These trains come through the Jamaica Station where passengers switch to catch trains running through Woodside and into Penn Station in Manhattan.
C. The Southern Lines – Montauk, Babylon, West Hempstead, Long Beach & Far Rockaway
The southern lines of the LIRR run along the southern shores of Long Island. The line comes in from Montauk through Babylon and connect traffic from many different branches, including West Hempstead, Long Beach and Far Rockaway.
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